1 00:00:15,350 --> 00:00:12,709 thanks for joining us today here in the 2 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:15,360 building nine mock-up facility with us 3 00:00:19,189 --> 00:00:17,199 veteran astronaut mike fink who has 4 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:19,199 spent more days in space than any other 5 00:00:22,950 --> 00:00:21,199 u.s astronaut and who has had the 6 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:22,960 privilege of launching twice and landing 7 00:00:27,509 --> 00:00:25,680 twice in this vehicle the russian soyuz 8 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:27,519 spacecraft mike's going to take us 9 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:28,960 through a little walk on each of the 10 00:00:33,190 --> 00:00:31,199 sections of the soyuz today before we go 11 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,200 inside for a look-see mike 12 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,520 rob it's great to be here and it's great 13 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:37,600 to get a chance to talk about one of my 14 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:40,559 favorite spacecraft the soyuz comes in 15 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,520 three parts it's a classic spacecraft 16 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,760 a capsule-based design so in the middle 17 00:00:49,670 --> 00:00:47,280 part let's talk about that first that's 18 00:00:52,549 --> 00:00:49,680 where we sit in for launch and landing 19 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,559 so we call that the crew module and 20 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:54,079 right above it we have the habitation 21 00:00:57,910 --> 00:00:56,399 module so that when we actually get into 22 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:57,920 space we need a little bit more room so 23 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:59,760 we're not cramped in that little can 24 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:01,600 so we have the habitation module and the 25 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:03,280 third module below is the 26 00:01:08,310 --> 00:01:05,760 instrumentation module which has extra 27 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,320 things like oxygen and our engines and 28 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,640 things like that now just before landing 29 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:12,400 all three of these modules separate and 30 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:13,840 only the part in the middle where we're 31 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:16,000 sitting is the one that comes back home 32 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:17,759 well let's take a look inside mike yeah 33 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:26,149 rob this is a mock-up of a soyuz model 34 00:01:30,710 --> 00:01:27,920 tma and 35 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:30,720 the a part came uh in the mid to late 36 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:33,680 90s early 2000s when we put in this new 37 00:01:38,550 --> 00:01:36,320 glass cockpit the neptune panel 38 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:38,560 and so we uh we're sitting down i'm 39 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:41,040 sitting down in the flight engineer spot 40 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:43,200 which is at the left seat and then there 41 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:45,200 is the center seater who is the 42 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:47,680 commander and then you're sitting in the 43 00:01:52,789 --> 00:01:50,799 right seater position which is either 44 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,799 another flight engineer flight engineer 45 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,479 number two or 46 00:01:59,429 --> 00:01:57,520 a space flight participant so you can 47 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:59,439 see on that side there are fewer buttons 48 00:02:03,910 --> 00:02:01,360 to push and a few things to control so 49 00:02:06,149 --> 00:02:03,920 usually the spacecraft is flown with the 50 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:06,159 commander and the flight engineer which 51 00:02:10,790 --> 00:02:08,560 more like a co-pilot working together 52 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:10,800 and since the sen the center seat is is 53 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:12,959 depressed a little bit lower it's harder 54 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,560 for the commander to actually push the 55 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:16,400 button so either he uses a stick like 56 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:19,040 this or oftentimes the way that i've 57 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:21,440 flown it is as a flight engineer i push 58 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:23,840 all the buttons i set everything up 59 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:26,879 commander agrees or disagree and then we 60 00:02:31,190 --> 00:02:29,360 we execute you can see there's a a 61 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,200 screen right here that's a periscope 62 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:32,879 that looks uh out either in front of the 63 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:36,400 vehicle or below us as well as 64 00:02:40,390 --> 00:02:38,080 some control sticks here so we can 65 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:40,400 actually manually fly from the center 66 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:41,840 seat 67 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:43,599 so let's say we're at the baikonur 68 00:02:48,309 --> 00:02:46,560 cosmodrome in kazakhstan it's launch day 69 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,319 the crew has had breakfast at their 70 00:02:53,190 --> 00:02:51,120 resident crew quarters you've gone out 71 00:02:54,790 --> 00:02:53,200 into the cosmodrome to suit up and now 72 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:54,800 you're at the launch pad 73 00:02:59,589 --> 00:02:57,120 how do you get inside this this 74 00:03:01,670 --> 00:02:59,599 efficient vehicle and uh get settled in 75 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,680 for the rest of the countdown the the 76 00:03:05,509 --> 00:03:03,519 launch pad that i launched off of twice 77 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:05,519 was yuri gagarin's launch pad how cool 78 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:07,519 is that to have have people from all 79 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:09,040 over the world including americans 80 00:03:13,509 --> 00:03:11,040 launching from yuri's launch pad so 81 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:13,519 about uh two and a half hours before 82 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:16,800 launch we uh we arrived by bus already 83 00:03:19,910 --> 00:03:18,400 dressed in our spacesuits 84 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,920 we climb up the 85 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:21,760 ladder to the gantry take a small 86 00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:24,799 elevator up to the tippy top and the 87 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:27,040 rocket doesn't look so big from below 88 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,879 but when you're up there at the at the 89 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:30,560 up at the tippy top of the rocket 90 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,280 looking down it's a big rocket 91 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:35,840 we come in through the 92 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:38,000 living and habitation module and there's 93 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:40,480 a hatch right up up here that we 94 00:03:44,149 --> 00:03:42,480 actually come through so the hatch you 95 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:44,159 see behind us doesn't really exist it's 96 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:46,959 great for the mock-up so we send down 97 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:49,200 usually the flight engineer first then 98 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:50,879 over to the flight engineer number two 99 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:52,720 or space flight participant and then 100 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:54,560 this commander comes in last we close 101 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:58,080 the hatch we turn on the panels we turn 102 00:04:01,270 --> 00:04:00,080 on the spacecraft make sure all the 103 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:01,280 systems are working do our 104 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:04,000 communications checks and then we sit 105 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,760 back and let the ground team do their 106 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:06,640 job 107 00:04:10,789 --> 00:04:08,959 the soyuz booster rocket that the 108 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:10,799 spacecraft is perched 109 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:14,319 on top of is fully fueled ready to go 110 00:04:17,830 --> 00:04:15,680 what are some of the things that take 111 00:04:21,270 --> 00:04:17,840 place let's say in the final 30 minutes 112 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:21,280 or so before liftoff usually uh up to 113 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:22,800 that point uh 114 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:25,280 we have been relaxing if all the comm 115 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:27,120 checks went well the pressurization of 116 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:29,360 the capsule our suit checks if that all 117 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:31,040 goes well then we're just sitting down 118 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,840 relaxing and sometimes they even put in 119 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:35,440 some some music 120 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:36,880 and it's very 121 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:38,479 amazing to sit there on the step of 122 00:04:42,629 --> 00:04:40,560 kazakhstan listening to 123 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:42,639 maybe some american jazz right before a 124 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:44,560 launch so about half an hour though we 125 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:47,120 get we get our head back in the game and 126 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,240 we make sure all of our systems are are 127 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:52,400 are functioning properly do some more 128 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:53,759 comm checks with the ground make sure 129 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:55,600 that they hear us they'll tell they'll 130 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,759 give us an update and then 131 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:59,759 by that time it's time to go and it's 132 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:01,360 just starting to 133 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,960 you know you start you can't believe 134 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,400 because up to that point you're you're 135 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:06,080 saying wow i've been training for years 136 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,759 ready to go and you can see the little 137 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:09,520 counter start to go down a little bit so 138 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:11,759 my goodness we're it's gonna happen and 139 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:14,320 then you hear some a few thumps or bumps 140 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:17,199 outside as the gantry moves and uh 141 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:18,400 you're standing there all by yourself 142 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:20,160 and then you can feel the vibration of 143 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:22,080 the engine start to launch and then 144 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,680 beauty of it all eight and a half 145 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:25,680 minutes later you're in orbit it's that 146 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:26,720 fast 147 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:29,120 and then mike conversely after about six 148 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:30,880 months on orbit it's time to come home 149 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:33,919 at some point back to kazakhstan 150 00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:35,840 walk us through the preparations that 151 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:36,960 you all 152 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,479 do when it's time to undock and 153 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:42,880 give us a little uh glimpse of what that 154 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,039 entry is all about we close the hatch 155 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:47,039 between the uh 156 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:48,560 we get back in our spacesuits then we 157 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:50,240 close the hatch to the 158 00:05:53,990 --> 00:05:52,160 uh the living habitation module we get 159 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,000 back here in the in the crew module the 160 00:05:58,309 --> 00:05:56,000 descent module and we're all in our 161 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:58,319 spacesuits again we make sure that uh 162 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:00,000 that this hatch especially the one 163 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:02,720 between the living habitation module and 164 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:05,919 the uh and the crew module here is very 165 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:08,319 fully sealed because all of a sudden 166 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,680 that hatch is going to be the one to the 167 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,240 outside because our three compartments 168 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:14,400 break apart so we get ready for 169 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,919 undocking to the space station we're in 170 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,000 our spacesuits everything's good and we 171 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:20,400 uh we watch the undocking it's all 172 00:06:24,950 --> 00:06:22,960 automatic uh we make sure that uh we're 173 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,960 pointing away from the sp yeah we pull 174 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:26,800 away from space station make sure we get 175 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,440 out of the space station's way and uh we 176 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:31,120 check out all of our systems to make 177 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:33,280 sure that we can come back home safely 178 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:35,039 again it's always about checking out our 179 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:36,639 systems it's really tricky because we're 180 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:39,199 going 17 500 miles an hour and we're 181 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,479 going to go back to zero and we're going 182 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:42,479 to do that by breaking through the air 183 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:44,080 that means you're using the air to slow 184 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:46,080 us down generates a lot of heat our heat 185 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:49,199 shield not just glows it actually melts 186 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:51,360 off it's an ablative heat shield our 187 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:54,160 whole capsule is is coated in it and 188 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:56,240 it's just amazing because once we do our 189 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,520 deorbit burn 190 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:59,199 that's really important it takes about 191 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:01,280 three minutes to slow down but once we 192 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:02,800 hit the atmosphere and start to slow 193 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:05,520 down it's just a amazing ride you can 194 00:07:09,510 --> 00:07:07,360 look right out the windows and you can 195 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:09,520 see the ablative heat shields melting 196 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:11,120 you can see the plasma ball that you're 197 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:12,880 traveling through and you're slowing 198 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:15,199 down and we start 199 00:07:19,029 --> 00:07:16,880 hitting the atmosphere like in central 200 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:19,039 africa by the time we reach central asia 201 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:21,280 as we travel north and east you know 202 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:23,599 we're uh you know it's uh 203 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:25,199 yeah we're slowed down enough that 204 00:07:30,629 --> 00:07:27,680 parachutes can pop out and we gent we 205 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:30,639 drift gently to the earth below but that 206 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:32,400 parachute deployment is almost like the 207 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:34,319 e-ticket of the ride isn't it 208 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,400 well that's uh that's definitely uh i 209 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:38,479 know some rides it's amusement parks 210 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:40,639 where people pay money for that because 211 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:42,560 our parachute because we have this hatch 212 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,080 here our parachutes actually off to the 213 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:46,800 side so when it first pops out 214 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,960 we kind of swing around in a big arc and 215 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:50,479 we haven't had gravity for a long time 216 00:07:54,309 --> 00:07:51,919 and all of a sudden we're swinging 217 00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:54,319 around in a big circle so uh and that 218 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:57,039 comes right after you know after the 219 00:08:00,390 --> 00:07:58,560 the screaming in through the atmosphere 220 00:08:01,510 --> 00:08:00,400 and breaking up to pulling up the six 221 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:01,520 g's and all of a sudden we're spinning 222 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:03,039 around with the parachute but then the 223 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,759 parachute repositions itself and it then 224 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:07,919 becomes a kind of a normal parachute and 225 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:11,440 we slow down and then it's just a gentle 226 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:13,759 drifting but until then it's pretty 227 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:17,039 exciting until 228 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:19,599 the last meter or so the last three feet 229 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:21,680 as when we meet the ground we're going 230 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:24,080 about 20 miles an hour at the time and 231 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,840 we hit the hit the earth firmly and uh 232 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:30,000 and we know that we're back home 233 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:32,240 there are engines that fire right a 234 00:08:37,829 --> 00:08:35,279 split second before touchdown uh almost 235 00:08:40,630 --> 00:08:37,839 strangely named soft landing engines but 236 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:40,640 we're lying on what would be custom 237 00:08:45,990 --> 00:08:43,200 seat liners that have some cushion 238 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:46,000 capability for you right it's a 239 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:47,760 the russian designers have tried to make 240 00:08:53,509 --> 00:08:50,560 it as safe as possible so that we can 241 00:08:55,990 --> 00:08:53,519 come back come back safely and gently so 242 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:56,000 nobody gets hurt so they do slow us down 243 00:09:00,630 --> 00:08:58,399 with our uh with the retro rockets right 244 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:00,640 in the last meter or so these seats 245 00:09:03,350 --> 00:09:02,160 actually right before landing in fact 246 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:03,360 that's what how you know that you're 247 00:09:08,389 --> 00:09:05,279 getting close to the ground they kind of 248 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:08,399 uh position up so they would uh so that 249 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:11,200 as soon as we land the shock absorber 250 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:14,640 takes the the bulk of the the impact now 251 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:16,480 once you're down on the ground those of 252 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:18,000 us who have been 253 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:19,600 flying in helicopters russian 254 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:21,920 helicopters in a racetrack pattern 255 00:09:26,710 --> 00:09:24,560 around the landing site waiting for you 256 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,720 we will land in sequential fashion and 257 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:28,880 then the process begins to extract the 258 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:30,880 crew take us through there well it's 259 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:32,560 always comforting because on the way 260 00:09:36,230 --> 00:09:34,000 down especially under the parachutes 261 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:36,240 we're able to talk to the the pilots of 262 00:09:40,070 --> 00:09:38,560 the of the air airplanes and the and the 263 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:40,080 helicopters so they know where to find 264 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:42,080 us and that's very comforting to know 265 00:09:45,829 --> 00:09:43,760 once we hit the ground that there's 266 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:45,839 going to be someone there to meet us so 267 00:09:48,870 --> 00:09:48,000 after we hit the ground we actually have 268 00:10:10,150 --> 00:09:48,880 a 269 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:10,160 kind of crowded in here so sometimes 270 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:12,320 they have to move some uh some payload 271 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:14,240 or some of our survival equipment out of 272 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:16,240 the way first and then they pull out the 273 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:18,079 commander and then the flight engineer 274 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:20,640 number two and then of course last but 275 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:21,839 not least 276 00:10:26,630 --> 00:10:23,920 me the flight engineer 277 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:26,640 it must be almost a sensory overload 278 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:28,240 after six months 279 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:31,120 in a vacuum environment basically 280 00:10:35,190 --> 00:10:33,200 up on the space station 281 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:35,200 the smell of fresh air the look of the 282 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:37,200 grass the smell of the dirt down in 283 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:38,399 kazakhstan 284 00:10:43,430 --> 00:10:41,440 what are those sensations like for you 285 00:10:45,829 --> 00:10:43,440 all of those sensations rob are 286 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:45,839 heightened by our emotional feeling of 287 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:48,240 coming back home and uh as they say in 288 00:10:52,150 --> 00:10:50,000 the movies there's no place like home 289 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,160 and you you're coming back to earth and 290 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:53,920 coming back to gravity all these all 291 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:55,440 these things they're not new to us but 292 00:10:58,630 --> 00:10:57,200 we haven't had them in a while so 293 00:11:00,230 --> 00:10:58,640 they're it's kind of like re 294 00:11:02,470 --> 00:11:00,240 rediscovering things all over again 295 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:02,480 rediscovering the sense of smell and how 296 00:11:06,790 --> 00:11:04,240 beautiful it smells and the outdoors on 297 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:06,800 the step how it is to uh how it is to 298 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:08,399 they hand us an apple right after we 299 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:11,519 land just to just to give us a a a taste 300 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:14,800 a scent of of mother earth 301 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:17,200 back on earth mike uh and we appreciate 302 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,040 your time as always and thanks for 303 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:21,279 walking us through a trip in the soyuz 304 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:22,480 i'm really glad